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Relationship Between Law and Morality — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:47:49 +0000

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By: Miracle

Miracle — Tue, 08 May 2007 22:02:36 +0000

I’m sorry Reverend, but you have assumed a conclusion that was not true and a conclusion that was intentionally left out. Since my continued perseverance and faith, my stepdad and brother has quit doing hard drugs, marijuana and drinking altogether, my sister quit smoking pot and cigarettes and is actually a missionary now, and my mother leads the women mission board at her local church. I dare not say that I was the only reason for the change, but I comfortable in saying I was a major influencing factor. To say that I sat around and prayed is a horrible assumption that truthfully goes against everything I worked for. Life is not one dimensional, my prayer life and faith search poured out onto my relational life. I have helped out my family and all my friends through hard times. I did not turn my back away from them and shun them out. Overall, I don’t have to choose between reaching out nor praying. I can do both. Life is short but not instant.

By: Paul Reuben

Paul Reuben — Tue, 08 May 2007 21:48:08 +0000

My good friend the Reverend David Burnight, who presided over my wedding ceremony sat with me and my (then) wife to be and asked us about what we intended to teach our children, if and when we had any.

We told him that we were going to teach her everything. He seemed pleased by that.

Point: I suppose you said it when you mused about other religions or philosophies, combined with the idea that you can’t prove a God exists and that you did not ever get what we would call a real response – you make your own gods. And maybe you have a shared experience with others that affirms your God. There is a whole world of experience there to be had.

I think, though, that reaching out to people, rather than inward to your God, is a much healthier solution. You can help strengthen your family and your community by reaching out. Sitting and praying is (to be honest) a bit selfish. It only reinforces the idea that you are an individual separated from everybody else, when infact, without these people, you would not have a frame of reference in which to evaluate yourself.

By: evoLverR

evoLverR — Mon, 07 May 2007 20:25:49 +0000

Well then. Enjoy your relationship. Hope it helps you be a better human and to treat everyone else with kindness.

By: Miracle

Miracle — Sun, 06 May 2007 03:07:12 +0000

@Evolver

Yes, I have investigated other religions. I take alot of inspiration and from Far Eastern Philosophies such as Buddhism, Zen, and Taoism, but basically they are more philosophy than religion. I do not know anyone who follows Hinduism so I have a few unsettled questions. All three of the Abrahamic faiths: Judaism, Islam, and Christianity tend to be too legalistic. Universalism and Bah’ai are too dreamy in their thinking that all religions say the same thing. I am too close to God to be an agnostic (Even though agnosticism is the most logical of all belief systems, including atheism).

Removing every religion and faith system, my main focus is my personal faith and relationship with God. I do claim to be a Christian, but not so much as a member of Christianity. It is more like the original meaning – One who follows the teaching and way of Jesus Christ. Why did I stick with Jesus? well I started to write why but that deserves a post in itself (or many series). All I know is that the things he taught and did resonates within me to be really the truth, the way and the life.

By: evoLverR

evoLverR — Sat, 05 May 2007 07:13:31 +0000

But have you tried any other faiths? I for one think that buddhaism is a much more humane religion cos it focuses on THIS life and not on some imaginary happy-place that awaits us beyond the rainbow.

Aren’t you just following the pack?

You know, conformism is one of the WORST sins out there. Conformism made the spanish inquisition happen, it made holocaust happen and it sure did make IRAQ OCCUPATION happen.

Herd mentality.

Christians are allowing and even propagating THOUSANDS of Iraqi deaths daily.

Religion is for the ignorant.

By: Vanessa

Vanessa — Sat, 05 May 2007 04:56:43 +0000

When I was finished reading your post, my thoughts were similar to Bob Weaver’s – if you were lonely, why didn’t you spend time with the family and friends you had, even if they were doing pot? I became friends with some people who smoked, and none of them ever rejected me for not smoking. Unlike you, I did try it out because I wanted to know what their experience was all about. I never got high though, so I stopped after smoking pot 2 or 3 times. I still hung out with those same friends, and even went right ahead and laughed along during their silly high times. The relationships that I had with some of those people have remained stronger and truer than relationships that I had with Christians during the same time period. Of course, I do also have Christian friends that I have remained close with throughout those years. My point is that the use of pot, or belief in a particular faith need not isolate you from others.

By: Miracle

Miracle — Fri, 04 May 2007 14:46:09 +0000

@evolver

My faith was not created by a book. Yes I follow Jesus and most of the Bible, but I would not say that my religion came from the book. I actually went through a time of prayer, testing, questioning and doubt of the bible and came to the conclusion that its truth/false has nothing to do with my faith in God. I agree that all religions were created by men, but that doesn’t make your equation man created religion which created God correct. I would say from the beginning that man created religion to understand God. Therefore religion is very limiting, but God is not dependant on it.